therefor the loop goes infinitly! Hi Erich, In my case the JTAG programmer deletes the saved data when it reprogrames the MCU. you find the start of the flash area in the linker file. https://mcuoneclipse.com/2012/11/01/defining-variables-at-absolute-addresses-with-gcc/. Would storing them as fields in a struct be a better option ? #define NVMC_REFLECTANCE_DATA_SIZE (6*2*2) /* maximum of 6 sensors (min and max) values with 16 bits */ #ifndef __BWUserType_IFsh1_TDataAddress To write such a string use e.g. My question is: But I have another problem before that. EEPROM can access and erase the data byte-wise or a byte at a time. Sure, that works, but adds an extra part to the design. I store the configuration data at runtime into FLASH with NVMC_SaveSumoData(): Then, if the robot starts, it checks the data in FLASH: Instead of an external EEPROM, the microcontroller internal FLASH can be used to store and read data. I don’t think that lowering the flash clock will help, but you can try that too as we are in ‘desperate mode’ anyway. This sounds like a bug to me. From that start address each sector boundary is at a 1k address boundary. The Segger firmware worked relatively well but I was not able to implement an easy way to preserve the flash region. Erich. Hi Alice, I followed the MQX example flash_demo.c and it works fine. ESA article: Using Flash Memory in Embedded Applications Hi Hani, So, I just do the same thing all over again, and click OK that Eclipse update the related source files for me when I switch the CPU package, then it works!!! To late to change the hardware… I think we can live with losing the USB debug terminal when writing the calibration values. I’m working with the “FRDM-K64F” platform and I can not determine the start address of the “Flex Memory,” then I can not set the parameters for the memory space reserved. ( Log Out /  then I would not be surprised. DRAM, on the other hand, has an extremely short data lifetime-typically about four milliseconds. I’ve set the write mode “safe write (with save & erase), but it fail if i write the same flash address “twice”. #define IFsh1_AREA_COUNT (0x02U) What about the clock freq. But recently these differences are disappearing as technologies are catching up. This takes both time and energy, which is critical if I want to do this while the microcontroller is shutting down because of a power loss. no, I think you are not missing anything. The code is just going in an infinit loop in the IFsh1_SetFlash(…) methode. EEPROM.write(pos, val) writes one byte (val) at the address giving by pos.An "int" in ESP8266 takes 4 bytes, so it's a little more complicated, because EEPROM works in bytes, not ints. Hi Camilo, have you configured the flash driver that it uses ‘safe write’ with erase? amount of EEE data allows the FlexMemory EEE implementation to offer extremely high endurance. While it is correct to state that flash memory is a type of EEPROM, the terms EEPROM and flash memory usually describe different devices. Viewed 616 times 0. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! Hello, And it is designed for high speed and high density at the cost of large erase blocks. DataFlash usually had higher capacities than EEPROM in the early days, [when?] Why not using the microprocessor internal flash memory? /* Minimal erasable unit. Thanks a lot for pointing me to your blog post. To to use interrupts for the flash programming? FlashROM is a universal flash programming utility used to detect, read, verify, erase, or write BIOS chips in DIP, PLCC, SOIC, TSOP, or BGA packages. I have disabled automatic linker file generation for at least one of my projects. A big THANKS for the support. I only have have use flash programming with Processor Expert drivers, because this simply works. so, does it mean that each address point to a space of 8 bits ? Yes, I find the reason that I fail to write the address twice, it’s because I didn’t allow Eclipse to update the resource file when I switch to the correct CPU package. In fact, EEPROM chips are too slow to use in many products that make quick changes to the data stored on the chip. And how am I supposed to read it back. Also it appears that you manually have to change the linker file for this, and that is not ideal for my application as this is an easily forgotten step that could “break” the application down the road. For example Flash API blocks all … 1FC00 : represents the starting address of the data user } There are multiple ways how to read the string. I would like to know that can I write data at PFLASH address by external mean like JLINK debugger for kinetis MK10D processor.. ESP8266 EEPROM.cpp L100-L101. But what if not? My question is that I have a software version that I would like to store in the NVM section that I created. Hi Geoff, I need this for my project, i do not know where the problem is. Click to access AN4903.pdf Pingback: Flash-based Configuration Data Using The ld Linker – vilimblog. __inline const char myArray[0x400] = {}; then in your main you can write to it via the following: ... Hi Eric, Thanks for the answer, I understand. EEPROM sounds like a better choice for what I'm trying to do. Or, is it that the 1kb “eeprom” size selected is mapped on the E-Flash (B subsystem) and the A subsystem is ordinary flash memory, that can be used at compile time as program code or data? The internal FLASH typically has 10k-100k cycles, while external EEPROM can have 500k-1M cycles. portion of the FlexNVM used as an E-flash. – There is a EEE controller that uses the FlexRAM to backup in the FlexNVM depending on an EEPROM size. for the Flash? If I want to write a uint32_t (4 bytes, 32bits) : need to use an address that can be devised per 4 ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GcggYQYrXU. Click to access en.CD00165693.pdf. EEPROM occupies more die area than flash memory for the same capacity, because each cell usually needs a read, a write, and an erase transistor, while flash memory erase circuits are shared by large blocks of cells (often 512×8). Manufacturers responded to this limitation with Flash memory, a type of EEPROM that uses in-circuit wiring to erase by applying an electrical field to the entire chip or to predetermined sections of the chip called blocks. Usually I re-flash the program with tftpd32 SW via Ethernet and I debug with debug printf . Typically I use these settings: There are other settings explained in the help of the component (see “Getting Help on Processor Expert Components“). it is a local file which I use to configure the platform/application behaviour. IFsh1_CmdPending = FALSE; /* Command parameter error */ Appreciate it! The Watchdog is disabled! Is this aproblem? m_cfmprotrom (RX) : ORIGIN = 0x00000400, LENGTH = 0x00000010 Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. I hope this helps, I’m slowly moving over from KDS to MCUXpresso. I read the EPROM data using a microcontroller UART. Anyhow, this method is nice cause it doesn’t force you to muck with the linker file. block (FlexNVM), and EEE state machine. Perhaps you can weigh-in on our discussion in the Freescale forum: https://community.freescale.com/thread/357531 I need to tell the linker that I’m going to use part of the FLASH memory for my data storage. Very good website you have here but I was wondering if you knew of any discussion boards that cover the same topics talked about here? In the microcontroller, RAM is mainly to do the runtime data memory, Flash is mainly program memory, EEPROM is mainly used in the program to save some need to lose the power of the data. which is why you will need to do what I did above. What I don’t understand is: earlier you said that the device resets and goes to the startup vector, but now you say it is hanging in this loop? But as you say, that gets complicated with many items. …. } else { Otherwise such a platform.h is what I use in most of my projects. My guess is I need to access the FlexRAM to access the FlexNVM ( FlexRAM address range = 0x1400_0000 – 0x1400_07FF) and the “virtual eeprom” is not accessible from within the IntFLASH component? “How FlexMemory EEE works Not sure why you think it is necessary to write the version string to FLASH at each boot? There is a question: It consists of a collection of floating gate transistors. … That way I know if there is already configuration data present or not. But from the description, I’m of the opinion that you have found a bug in Processor Expert flash programming? That could be because of the watchdog (is it turned on? Unlike the other types of media, manufacturers use Random Access Memory (RAM) to I think I’m a little confused but lets say I understand some parts of its functionnalities ( from AN4282 : Using the Kinetis Family Enhanced EEPROM Functionality ) : I am using the KEAZN8 with 8KB Flash. Hi Alice, if (dataSize>NVMC_REFLECTANCE_DATA_SIZE) { Where can I find more info on this? About how to read the data from the flash, I understand the getting methods with: byte, word, or longe because the functions have as argument the pointer to return the data. Their value is 0xFF. As shown in the below image: But the architecture of Flash memory is a little different from the EEPROM. return ERR_OVERFLOW; if (dataSize > FILE_COUNT_DATA_SIZE) { Hi Hani, For this, I was thinking to have something similar in FLASH. Same as above. SetBlockFlash() uses int32 (a 32bit number which corresponds to the memory address). In CW you can force a variable to be in flash/rom if it is const & initialized & prefixed. Result = ERR_RANGE; See https://mcuoneclipse.com/2012/04/27/programming-part-of-flash/, Thank you very much, you are the best!!! Erich. Another advantage of EEPROM over Flash is in how you can access and erase the stored data. on many devices the addresses have to be aligned to 4 bytes for 32bit accesses. There is a big problem that should be mentioned here: if the CPU is in HSRUN mode (like 120Mhz) you cannot program the flash. Hi Gabriel, Let’s try to understand the differences between EEPROM and Flash. this is really strange. I have aproblem when I debug the code. I read your your post titled about defining variables at absolute addresses with GCC (https://mcuoneclipse.com/2012/11/01/defining-variables-at-absolute-addresses-with-gcc/) but the problem with this is that in my data is not at the start of the new memory area NVM_Config area, is this what the “aligned” modifier is for? SRAM retains its contents as long as electrical power is applied to the chip. As for the Flash sector size: this is device (flash technology specific). …. generates. So short of rewriting the NVM PEX component, I’ll have to make clock config 0 be 80Mhz, and clock config 1 be the 120Mhz. Resource (FLASH) blocking? Usually the full page needs to be erased first before being programmed. Can you increase the stack size (to be sure that there is no suble stack overflow)? Any chance you could provide a blog post on this ? Flash memory differs in that its data can be selectively rewritten. Here is a code for writing one int val at some position pos in the EEPROM:. The flash memory chip is a close relative to the EEPROM; it differs in that it can only erase one block or "page" at a time. In order to use the internal program memory for my data at runtime, I need. On thing is that you need to make sure that the address you are using is matching the device block boundaries. . : Many times you don’t truly truly need to define the address manually. … but if i stopp running it i foud it hanging in the startup method. Hi Mevon, In EEPROM there are no such restrictions, old data can be over-written simply by writing new data to the required address. if you use the Segger OpenSDA firmware (https://mcuoneclipse.com/2013/05/16/freedom-board-with-segger-opensda-debug-firmware/), then it is like with a Segger J-Link Pro and you can use it like that. The flash is not feasible to store data during program run. Both EEPROM & Flash are non-volatile in nature. I have a problem on my KE06 I can’t write on the flash as you indicated. Maybe a mini file system. 0x1000_0000–0x1000_00FF as per the datasheet. After that, works only when the value is the same that it’s already saved. Best Regards . Hi Geoff, Why? If so, you have to serve it because the flash programming can take a while). Erich. I only read that community post at a high level. (otherwise it looked like it worked) Listing: Using the __declspec directive to specify where to place definitions. EEPROM.begin(size); EEPROM.write(addr, val); EEPROM.commit(); addr must be between 0 and size. i am setting the FTMRE clk to 5MHz. IFsh1_CmdPending = TRUE; The problem is that in the first try just after the debugger, works fine, but in a second try with a different value it fails except when the value is zero or sometimes when is 1 or 2. Thank you. What I’m using as well is storing parameters/settings on SD card (see https://mcuoneclipse.com/2014/04/26/frdm-with-arduino-ethernet-shield-r3-part-4-minini/). This means they are able to retain data for an extended period of time, regardless of the device is powered ON or OFF. Aligned is used to make sure the variable/object is properly aligned according to the bus/CPU architecture (e.g. Hi Hani, I did have a read through that section of the help file, but it seemed to be mostly offering ways to relocate code and/or data into specific RAM or flash blocks. if (Result == ERR_OK) { From AN4282 : Using the Kinetis Family Enhanced EEPROM Functionality : Flash offers more data storage capacity compare to EEPROM. This is true for lots of different M4’s, including the K22 and the K64 as far as I know. But after bit more searching I’ve come across the following LPC support page which provides some instructions on how to allocate a variable to a specific address (basically, divide up and rename an existing block and place a single variable into the new block). http://www.esacademy.com/en/library/technical-articles-and-documents/8051-programming/using-flash-memory-in-embedded-applications.html, ST app note: AN2594 I have discovered an issue that I believe may be a bug in processor expert. What didn’t I configure? Thank you. Thanks Erich! Pingback: Unlocking and Erasing FLASH with Segger J-Link | MCU on Eclipse, Pingback: Tutorial: How to Erase the FLASH with the GNU debugger | MCU on Eclipse, Hello Mr Styger, best wishes for 2015! ideal for product configuration data which is written only once), and only for smaller amount of data (few KBytes) in order not to impact the interrupt latency time. Store data in flash/EEPROM and process it in parallel. If it is only a few kBytes, an SD card or similar is an overkill. Although EEPROM and FLASH memory is very similar to memory technologies, storing data to them requires quite different data management approaches. Hi Romaric, The bigger issue is that interrupts need to be disabled too. if (Result == ERR_PARAM_ADDRESS) { I hope this helps, Is there a processor expert component for this? Following consequences should, therefore, be considered when migrating from an EEPROM to a data FLASH. Thanks and Regards, QJ Wang. My guess is, the FlexNVM can be splitted like so 1/8 (A) + 7/8 (B), A subsystem is the accessible part and B subsystem is the backup part, the ratio gives you endurance, and my EEPROM address is starting at 0x10000000. The component properties offers settings to configure how the programming shall be handled. i tryed to preserve the region that i used to not be erased when the controller starts, but no changes. great tutorial, as you usually do. For example: in global space write the following Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. Hello, thanks for sharing the two articles! #define IFsh1_ALLOW_CLEAR (TRUE). The solution is to switch to a slower clock (80Mhz would be okay) when doing the flash erase and flash writes. In your example, you had two variables (reflectance data, and Sumo data), and defined three parameters for each (start address, size, end address). writing to FLASH is much, much slower than reading it. What confuses me is in the intFlash_LDD, I use 8kb for the EEPROM backup size, for a 512 bytes Eeprom size. Reserve/allocate a chunk of memory so it does not get used by the Linker for the constant data/program at runtime. ” The stange thing is that the software works corretly, but the EPROM data are cancelled (0xFFFF value). Both are non-volatile memories. That’s indeed another nice way to do it, so I need to keep this one in mind. Learn how your comment data is processed. Hi Andrey, Result = IFsh1_CmdResult; I hope you can help me, because I’m really stuck with it to save non-volatile values. Do you have any idea aboute the problem cause? I found these interesting articles describing how using a table and only erasing (garbage collecting) when needed. If I have the read methode and the interrupts are enabeld, so i have to get the byte in the ISR! What is your clock speed while programming it? CDC_SendInteger(e); I am not using the isErased()-Methode! You’re blog is such a good reference. FLASH_LDD component and intFLASH component are similar ?. I will try our suggestions. What confuses me is in the intFlash_LDD, I use 8kb for the EEPROM backup size, for a 512 bytes Eeprom size. If you use it as EEPROM, as I said TI HALCoGen generates a FEE driver. You can then write to it without exceptions if it is sector aligned. If I want to write a uint16_t (2 bytes, 16bits) : need to use an address that can be devised per 2 ? 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